posted 08-15-2001 09:33            

There must be a difference in the fan situation between upper & lower units at Ka'Eo Kai.

My recollection from last year is that the lower Phase II unit we were in had a ceiling fan in the living room and master bedroom. We did not use the guest bedroom, but I don't remember it having a fan..It was still pretty warm & humid even in October and we had the windows & sliding doors open all of the time then too.

posted 08-15-2001 18:11         

It only goes to show that we all have different needs. I haven't read too much about the noise level. Is this not an issue for most of you? It was for us. It was horrible!!! There were reviews posted about the noise from the main road into Princeville. That was how we knew not to accept any of those units. We had the map that was so graciously put on this board by a fellow tugger. I want to thank that person so very much for that. Now, the noise from everything else was a bit much. Again, that's just the details of what we experienced. Pahio At Ka'EoKai has some beautiful units. We would not stay there again though because of our concerns.

Oh, as for the fans, in unit 7B, there is one ceiling fan over the bar and none in the living room at all. We took the portable fan found in the master bathroom closet and kept it in the living room for two weeks. There was also a ceiling fan in the guest bedroom. Now, on some nights it was pretty stuffy in that big bedroom without fan or AC. Yes, the windows were all open.

You probably will not believe that we are usually VERY easy to please. We're not complainers at all, so you should know that we really had some problems. jmho
Hajjah

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posted 08-15-2001 18:41            

Wonka,

There's an Embassy at Poipu Point for 03/01/02, online right now.

Oops, there's much more than that :

3682 Embassy Vacation Resort Poipu Point
Koloa, Kauai,HI USA
Please select an available unit:
Select Unit Type Max/Priv Kitchen Check-In Date
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/01/2002 Friday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/02/2002 Saturday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/03/2002 Sunday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/07/2002 Thursday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/08/2002 Friday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/09/2002 Saturday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/10/2002 Sunday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/14/2002 Thursday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/15/2002 Friday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/16/2002 Saturday
Two Bedroom 06/06 Full 03/17/2002 Sunday

posted 08-15-2001 18:57         

(Ok, that's it. I must still have jetlag from our non-stop flight last Saturday because I'm making too many mistakes. Goodnight)
Hajjah

posted 08-15-2001 19:56            

So, I hope Pahio Ka'Eo isn't as bad as the poster suggests. I understand they're a Gold Crown Resort...I'll have to go back and read the other reviews. I don't remember them being as unfavorable, or did i miss something?

As a PAHIO owner, I would not support spending the $$ to add A/C to the units to make some exchangers happy. I'm sorry that some people have had bad vacations, and I hope they are able to get into resorts that have A/C next time. I agree with earlier posters, however, who have said that the tropics are meant to be enjoyed without air conditioning, even if the result is different than being in Florida or Texas where you step from your A/C car to your A/C house.

posted 08-16-2001 09:40            

I don't think it's unreasonable to install air conditioning in the tropics. There is always an "on/off" switch for those who choose not to use them. I'm also sure that Pahio Kao Kai owner's also like to exchange into resorts with air conditioning in other areas. There are also a lot of people with allergies/asthma (like me). I just re-read my RCI confirmation. There is no mention of the lack of air conditioning. Our Maui Lea Hill does indicate air. I guess the RCI confirmation system works on an "exception" basis.

I must admit, however, I'm still perplexed. I've reread the reviews and most don't think the lack of air contioning is a problem. I'm sure I read the reviews prior to booking this reservation including the comments about the lack of air conditioning. We leave our windows open here at home even though I have asthma, but others with more severe cases may not be able to do this.

posted 08-16-2001 10:34            

I think if you read between the strong opinions on each side of this issue and get past some emotional responses by those who feel strongly each way, you'll see the answer to your questions.

It really boils down to the weather - sometimes you don't need it, but other days, you do. We've always had air conditioned accomodations in Hawaii and that was a major factor in our decision to buy at a resort that offered this feature versus numerous less expensive resales that would not have had A/C.

However, we have had several visits where A/C was not needed. I can remember trips where we left our sliding door to the lanai open all day and all night to hear the surf pounding outside our windows. The trade winds always kept it pleasant. But I can also recall several trips where the orientation of our room or the lack of trade winds made A/C a MUST. These were all trips in the late fall or winter months and were not during the higher heat and humidity of summer when I would guess the days you need A/C would outnumber the ones when you don't.

The bottom line is, since you cannot predict the weather, I would never select a Hawaiian timeshare without A/C. If the weather permits the doors to be left open and the trade winds to provide natural cooling - that's great - but I like knowing that the A/C is there for those days when the trades stop blowing and the heat and humidity set in. Even for someone raised in the heat and humidity of the Southeastern US, I wouldn't want to be in even Hawaii's more modest heat/humidity without A/C as an alternative.

posted 08-16-2001 19:10            

Of course no resort can be expected to meet all our expectations, and they aren't going to install air conditioners just for those exchanging into the resort.

I'm sure many of the owner's also wouldn't mind air conditioning, and confident owner's also exchange. That's pretty clear based on availability at this resort.

An investment in air conditioning spread among the ownership certainly shouldn't result in a significant maintenance fee increase.

Don't you think other resorts think about all their guests and owners?

posted 08-17-2001 01:05            

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posted 08-17-2001 05:13            

Don't 'sweat' it .. in March you might even need socks and a long sleeve t-shirt at night. You'll be fine. It might even dip to 68 or 69 one or two nights.

Folks:

Heat rises. Do you really need to be in an upstairs unit with cathedral ceilings in the middle of summer? Sometimes the trade winds quit when the sun goes down. That's when it feels hot here in the summer.

posted 08-17-2001 06:03         

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Originally posted by Wonka:
hajjah -

.....I'm sure many of the owner's also wouldn't mind air conditioning, and confident owner's also exchange. That's pretty clear based on availability at this resort.

An investment in air conditioning spread among the ownership certainly shouldn't result in a significant maintenance fee increase.

Don't you think other resorts think about all their guests and owners?......

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Wonka,

[First let me state this is not a burning issue (no pun intended)with me, so don't read any intensity into my message. I'm just trying to make a casual point.] Check out the timeshares in Colorado (including the Gold Crowns) and see how many (actually how few) offer AC. The obvious response is "Well, how often do they need it there?" That's my point. You can't lump all timeshares in the same basket and say that they all have equal need to be offering their exchangers air conditioning. It depends upon the local climate. (By the way, when it does get hot in Colorado, it gets far warmer than it does in Hawaii and there are no trade winds to blow through your unit. I've experienced both.)

posted 08-17-2001 06:53            

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