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Topic: Advice on "getting out" of time share
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ChrisG Non MemberPosts: 2 From: South Lake Tahoe Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 03-22-2005 20:05
Hi, Can anyone give, or point me to, advice on selling my timeshare property? I have decided that the maintenance fees and property taxes are just too much. It sounded good when we bought it. I guess I was gullible... Even went back the next year and bought a small amout to convert to some "point" system (sunterra).Anyway, I know I shouldn't pay anyone up front to sell it for me, and saw some other advice about "open house" not being really open house. But, what other advice do you have? Should I try to sell it back to the 'developer' some how? I saw a couple properties for sell on ebay, but that scares me, just because I'm not an ebay user I guess. When I google for this type of stuff, I mostly get info about sub renting my week out. Thanks for any pointers or links. Chris [Edited to delete resort information to avoid the appearance of an advertisement. Dave M] [This message has been edited by Dave M (edited 03-22-2005).] IP: Logged |
Dave M Administrator TUG MemberPosts: 6257 From: Boston, MA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 03-22-2005 20:24
Read the "how to sell" article at this TUG link and the first two articles in the Buying & Selling section of TUG Advice (link at the top of this page). Those should give you the formula for a successful sale without getting scammed.IP: Logged |
Hatrack79 TUG MemberPosts: 1804 From: Denver, CO Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 03-23-2005 07:44
quote: Originally posted by ChrisG: ... I have decided that the maintenance fees and property taxes are just too much.
Welcome to TUG. Your statement stikes me as if you're incorrectly assessing the ongoing costs of ownership. Let's say you hypothetically paid $15,000 for the deed and are in for $700/year M/F. I can show you that this developer purchase will cost you an average of $1500+$700 = $2200 per week of usage for the next 10 years, neglecting financing costs. Had you realized this at the sales pitch, you might have corrrectly stated, "I can't afford $320/night vacations, and said "no". However, had someone given you the timeshare for "zero" upfront capital, you'd be saying "wow, I can take a luxurious vacation and ALL I have to pay is the $700 per week of usage Maintenance Fee. That's only $100/night....that's a luxurious condo for the price of Holiday Inn, and you'd be happy. So....my point is, the real expensive part of the typical developer priced TS is the upfront capital, not the ongoing M/F. I'd encourage you to realize that the resale value of your timeshare is likely 25% of developer's cost. So it's now only worth $4,000 (in my example; your milage may vary). So...decide today if you're happy owning a $4000 TS deed, w/ ongoing $700 M/F. Nothing you do from here on out will bring back the $11,000 in depreciation....that's gone for good. Had you bought resale for $4000, I'd say your costs will be something like $400+$700= $1100 per week of usage for the next 10 years. Do you want to take ten (or more) $1100 vacations? or do you want $4000 cash in the bank, take your lumps and go back to renting hotels? (but the $11k is gone in either case). The developer extracted that $11k from your wallet the day you bought the deed for $11k more than it's worth. Hat
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arlene22 TUG MemberPosts: 485 From: N.J., Owner: Harborside @ Atlantis Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 03-23-2005 10:17
Hatrack speaks the truth. But nearly all of us here at TUG were under the same mistaken impression when we bought from developers. Don't feel bad. Perhaps if you hang around TUG a while, you might pick up some tips on how to maximize your timeshare and decide to keep it. If not, do read the Advice section articles on Selling and above all DO NOT PAY AN UPFRONT FEE to list your timeshare for sale. The only exception to this rule is paying a nominal (no more than $30-$50) to place a for sale ad on TUG, Redweek, myresortnetwork, ebay or the like.Best of luck and welcome to TUG. ------------------ ~Arlene IP: Logged |
ChrisG Non MemberPosts: 2 From: South Lake Tahoe Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 03-30-2005 07:48
Thank you all for the advice! IP: Logged |
JLB TUG MemberPosts: 7189 From: Add another 2500 posts!!! Table Rock Lake, Branson. Registered Dec. 2000 Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-30-2005 08:19
Sounds like our story with our first resort. For the same reason as you, the fees are higher than it's value to us, and other reasons, we have "gotten rid" of three weeks in the last two years.The first two we sold ourselves through Internet ads, with the closing handled by Timeshare Transfer, inc. Then we sold an EOY through an Internet ad, again with the closing handled by Timeshare Transfer. When our last EOY did not sell we donated it to the German Language School, with the transfer handled by Timeshare Transfer, Inc. Seems like there's a pattern there. I suggest you put "timeshares for sale" in google and do some studying. Pick some sites that look good, coming back here to ask about them, and then place some ads. When you have a buyer contact Susan Gale: susan@timesharetransfer.com ------------------ 16 years timesharing/80 exchanges/Branson-Table Rock Lake boat rides Interests: Buying/Selling/Renting/Donating/Exchanging/Searching Florida/Kauai/SOCAL/Colorado/Missouri/Arkansas/Iowa/Ohio Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Priceline/Hotwire/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living IP: Logged |
JeffW TUG MemberPosts: 1564 From: Philadelphia Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 03-30-2005 13:14
I can see wher ChrisG is coming from. My parents own a double t/s unit whose combined m/f's run I think about $1600 a year. The units trade like very poorly with RCI, to the point that I've recommended to them they consider selling for anything (they paid I think about $14k for both, but now sometimes you can't even give the units away). They have enough other t/s's that they barely use now that having 2 less wouldn't impact them. It was sort of an okay situation a few years ago when m/f's were about $850/yr. But now, even if they hold out saying, "We won't give them away, we want at least $x for it", by the time they wait that long, if they get that money, it's probably cost them more in fees for the last few years. Jeff IP: Logged |
JLB TUG MemberPosts: 7189 From: Add another 2500 posts!!! Table Rock Lake, Branson. Registered Dec. 2000 Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-30-2005 17:12
Our fees were around $600, so for three that was $1800. In ten years that would be $18000 (in today's dollars). Ten years from now we would rather have the $18000, than the crappy timeshares.------------------ 16 years timesharing/80 exchanges/Branson-Table Rock Lake boat rides Interests: Buying/Selling/Renting/Donating/Exchanging/Searching Florida/Kauai/SOCAL/Colorado/Missouri/Arkansas/Iowa/Ohio Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Priceline/Hotwire/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living IP: Logged |
buzzy TUG MemberPosts: 46 From: york,pa Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 04-01-2005 03:52
We just purchased an EOY because it was a lockout which enables us to take our 2 bedroom and lock it off and technically use it every year. If be some luck we can deposit half and trade at a place that has 2 bedroom that is even better. WE own Disney for the opposite year and figure 1 vacation for the kids, one for us. (with or without the kids). We bought Marriot Beach place tower Platinum usage for $7,500. I wish we read Tug before purchasing because I believe we could have waited and done better however, I did do research and an EOY usage (we had to have odd years) Platinum was kindof rare and not something you see everyday.IP: Logged |