posted 12-07-2004 14:27               

I just exit the window completely when I'm done manually searching.

Bev

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Originally posted by pbenham:
Bev,

Well I just learned something else on TUG! I had always accessed the manual search thru "Exchange a Week". Well, as soon as I had deposited my single week, that request was denied...I had always assumed that "Modify Search" would reset my ongoing search. Thanks for the advice.

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posted 12-07-2004 14:44               

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posted 12-07-2004 20:01               

This time I learned
1) Jim usually gets what he wants in SW Flroida - "eventually" - and how to do it!
2) PS - he advised me earlier this year how to get a week in SE FL based on all our available choices,and it worked, granted the end of Feb, but we do have a place on Marco Is for the family get together.
3) NE Florida is the last choice of interest, generally, but we ourselves love St Augustine!
4) All of FL seems booked up more than it used to. I am surprised too!

Joan www.home.earthlink.net/~joandungey/

posted 12-08-2004 08:08               

That about covers it.

When the student's ready the teacher will appear.

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posted 12-08-2004 10:27               

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posted 12-10-2004 11:36               

Exploring January in Florida further, weather is most likely the major determining factor as to what areas of Florida are most popular. That is why folks go to Florida in January to begin with.

With an upcoming trip, I checked the average daily temperatures where we are going, and then just decided to live recklessly and check all the areas included in "Resorts on the Beach." Not surprisingly, the warmest areas are the most popular.

The following are the average daily highs and lows for Week 2:

Key West 76/65
Ft. Lauderdale 76/59
Naples 75/54
Sarasota 75/54
Daytona Beach 70/47
Destin 61/36

It's also kinda strange that Florida's two coldest months are such popular months for Resorts on the Beach.

Notice how much warmer the low is in Key West. Balmy days/Balmy nights.

For the same timeframe the daily high and low in Lihue, HI, is 79/68. Although Hawaii temperatures are more even throughout the year than Florida, the "coldest" months in Hawaii are also the most popular.

Like I said--slow day.

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posted 12-10-2004 12:57               

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Originally posted by ttt:
Jim-Should you have another slow day, please compare weeks 4,5 & 6...my 3 weeks in Fl this year...

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posted 12-12-2004 07:05               

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posted 12-12-2004 18:15               

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Originally posted by jjking42:
jim do you see any 2 bedroom in sw florida for summer 2006. prefer marco island or sarsota.

thanks

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posted 12-12-2004 19:54               

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Originally posted by JLB:
Compare them with what?

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The Average Daily Temps for weeks 4,5 & 6...

posted 12-16-2004 08:40               

But then, freezing is forecast for Orlando for this week.

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Originally posted by ttt:
The Average Daily Temps for weeks 4,5 & 6...

[This message has been edited by ttt (edited 12-12-2004).]

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posted 12-16-2004 08:54               

We have been going to Florida in January for many years. We have stayed in the SE, SW, Tampa, NE and Orlando. In most of those areas it has been a pretty slow month. The Tampa area beaches, Daytona area, and Orlando have always been very slow, very much off-season weeks.

But now, looking at "Florida" for next month, there are only 8 resorts anywhere. For January, 2006, there are 96 resorts available.

So, is it becoming another of those things where if you search well ahead there is no problem, but by the actual use dates just about everything has been taken?

Or is it a glitch? Or is stuff going somewhere else?

If the conflict of interest with the exchange company did not exist, between making exchanges and selling rentals, this concern would not exist, we would not have to wonder.

It's sorta like this thread below, where we can't talk about availability without seeing stuff being offered to non-owners, non-members:

http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum14/HTML/003242.html

Edit (added): My concerns are not eased when I go to the following site and see that the most plentiful source for next month is rentals to non-owners, non-members, for prices hundreds of dollars (actually in some cases, as much as $1200) per week higher than for exchanges.

The conflict is there and the temptation is there, so . . .

http://www.rcihnresorts.com/RT_partners/ENG/RT_partn ers_wrapper_eng?method=search&searchsource=quicksearch&logsearch=false

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posted 12-16-2004 09:08               

I have been monitoring Florida for several years and this thread, with the results, is in it's third generation. I did not start it, the first one, however many months ago that was, with the intention of it being a "bashing" thread and don't want it to become one now.

But, when stuff that used to be there no longer is, and I try to figure out why, and I find stuff elsewhere, how can I not be suspicious, or at least mention it?

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posted 12-19-2004 10:25               

If you feel the need to do that, please start a new thread, in which you may include a link to this one.

Thanks.

Nothing has happened to SW FL for next month. But, as you can see above I have expanded my searches to see what is going on with ALL of Florida.

On 12/16 I reported that there were 8 resorts available for next month in ALL of Florida. Today, three days later and 13 days before the first checkin date, there are 29 resorts available!!!!

I'm dumbfounded. Where did all of that come from?

It's not a 45-day window thing because my searcher can see everything all the time. I don't believe it's because a bunch of folks just got their maintenance bills in the last three days and decided to late-deposit weeks less than 30 days off. But, that's possible if the exchange company still accepts weeks up until 14 days before start date.

The simple question, which no one would answer if you asked, is, "Where did this stuff come from?"

If the conflict did not exist, between offering rentals to the public and exchanges to members, I would not be so inclined to think that perhaps it is deposits that had been offered as rentals up until now, and they did not get taken, and now they are being offered to member/owners.

Sorta a reverse "excess weeks".

Just reporting the evidence.

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posted 12-19-2004 15:09               

Veranda Beach Club • VBC
Longboat Key, FL, USA 2 bedrooms, Sleeps 6
Full kitchen Saturday, January 01 2005/
Saturday, January 08 2005 1,300

posted 12-20-2004 06:22               

On 12/16/04, as reported that day in this thread, there were 8 resorts for all of Florida in that timeframe. Today there are 50. Most of these are for the first weekend checkins.

12/20/04 Searches

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SW FL 12/28/04-2/1/05: "The following 6 Resorts have availability during your requested time frame."

Including: Lighthouse Resort & Club 3285 Sanibel Island, FL, USA 6/6 01/01/2005. There was also a Charter Club on Marco Island, which disappeared before I could document it.

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Resorts on the Beach
12/28/04-2/1/05: "The following 16 Resorts have availability during your requested timeframe."

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Florida 12/28/04-2/1/05: "The following 50 Resorts have availability during your requested timeframe."

Including stuff like Orange Lake Country Club 0670 Kissimmee, FL, USA 8/2 12/31/2004 - 01/08/2005, and there was a three bedroom that disappeared before I could document it.
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So, where did this stuff come from and why has it not been available until today, 11 days before start date?

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posted 12-20-2004 08:18               

"Club Regency of Marco Island 2023 Marco Island, FL, USA 6/6 01/01/2005"

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And they're "dropping like flies", all of Florida is now down to 40:

"The following 40 Resorts have availability during your requested time frame."

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posted 12-20-2004 09:38               

I also assume it is referring to RCI Points members taking exchanges from the Weeks members' pool, which they are allowed to do.

Weeks members are not allowed to take anything, or even view, the Points pool.

That's a discussion for the BSR and exchanging boards, and there are a couple of them going on now.

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Originally posted by Present:
What is raiding?

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posted 12-20-2004 09:53               

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Originally posted by JLB:

I'm dumbfounded. Where did all of that come from?

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Is it possible that the problem lies with the website and that the weeks have always been theere if you called an RCI Guide?

posted 12-20-2004 12:19               

"The following 35 Resorts have availability during your requested time frame."

It does not appear that they have found any more stuff laying around in the back room.

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